El otro día comentaba una discusión en Twitter acerca de diferentes formas de acabar con el problema del precio de las cartas en Legacy. Lo cierto es que en Twitter están dándose hoy en día los mejores debates de la actualidad magiquera, tanto de posibles cartas en M12 como de propuestas de acabar con la Lista Reservada. Se me ocurrió que podría compartir con vosotros unas cuantas, y aquí están
(disculpas por no haberlo traducido, pero creo que la actualidad del documento lo justifica)
torero tutor: I'm going to be pretty bummed if Titans are reprinted. The rationale i've read seems valid, but man... So lame.
Justin Treadway: The idea that looking up card values during a trade is "intimidating" is hilarious to me. Is this elementary school?
Justin Treadway: It's why God invented iphones.
Arturo Pineda: Reading @Jonathan Medina's article forum discussion makes me ask so hard.. Are we in Magical Christmas Land where everyone trades fair and nice?
Arturo Pineda: And for people arguing they don't have time to look up prices, I trade every Sat and take 10-15 mins to check prices, lots of time right?
Arturo Pineda: Also twitter, what's up with all this Titans in M12 talk? Sounds like #crazytalk! lol #mtg
torero tutor: For the Record: I'm not "scared" of these traders. I just prefer not to deal with them, even though i could hold my own.
torero tutor: Trading Card Game means trade for the cards you need to play with. Not snake people for their money. I practice accordingly. Do as you like.
Jonathan Richmond: SCG NJ Legacy Finals with Eli Kassis and Alix Hatfield: 1,112 views, SCG NJ Round 3 Feature Match with AJ Kerrigan: 11,604 views.
Brook Gardner-Durbin: @Jonathan Richmond alix is the only name I recognize. should I know the others?
Corbin Hosler: Can someone explain what I'm supposed to gather from the "new Phyrexia" video? "The Infectors become the Infected?"
Brook Gardner-Durbin: @Corbin Hosler I've been saying since forever it wouldn't be as simple as Side X beats Side Y. theres more to this than a simple Phyrex victory.
Brook Gardner-Durbin: @Corbin Hosler Just watched the video on the WotC site about Action-New Phyrexia. The talking in English def make… (cont) http://deck.ly/~W3QlO
MTG Color Pie: Since when did Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker creep up to $20? Casual/EDH want him that much?
Jonathan Richmond: @MTG Color Pie He has been $15+ for a while now I'm pretty sure.
torero tutor: @Brook Gardner-Durbin @Corbin Hosler i'm pretty convinced April 1st will have some april fools shenanigans about this.
Jonathan Richmond: @MTG Color Pie I still need a foil one for EDH, probably like $40 or something ridiculous.
Patrick Chapin: My guess for M12? Gideon 2, Jace 1 (or 3?), Sorin 1 (or 2?), Chandra 3, Garruk 2, no Titans, no Baneslayer, no Lightning Bolt, and no Mana Drain.
Jonathan Medina: @Patrick Chapin No Mana Drain? Damn!
samstod: @Patrick Chapin uhhh....ana and ceta....#forgotaboutapoc
Patrick Chapin: @samstod No, no I didn't, however, those names never caught on due to their poor design.
samstod: @Patrick Chapin right. Names are important. Only rav guilds regularly used are boros and (very) occasionally rakdos.
Lauren Lee: @samstod @Patrick Chapin Yeah they should redo those. I can see Simic catching on, but there aren't a lot of Simic decks.
Osyp Lebedowicz: @Patrick Chapin I would love a playable Sorin and a new Garruk!
Jonathan Medina: Force of Will for M12, Who's With Me!??! #mtg #LetItRain #NoSeriously
unknown: best names for color pairs/triplets are one or two syllables and are catchy. I like Boros, Simic, and Izzet. Others need work.
Lauren Lee: For #M12, I hope for a new Chandra. I expect all the other PWs to be reprints, though. Walker design space is very precious
unknown: guess of %chance in M12:ManaLeak >JaceBeleren >FrostTitan >ForceOfWill >Counterspell >JaceTMS >ManaDrain >BlueNecropotence >HomaridShaman.
Lauren Lee: As implausible as this is, it's entirely possible they reprint Grave, Frost, and Inferno and design new Titans for G/W. ... I mean maybe
Jonathan Richmond: I would say a new Chandra is likely. Jace Beleren, Ajani Goldmane, and Garruk Wildspeaker will probably stay the same. Not sure about Sorin.
torero tutor: Why does everyone think Liliana in INN means no Liliana in M12? Hasn't there ALWAYS been 2 incarnations of at least 1 PW in standard?
Corbin Hosler: @Lauren Lee Nah. They're all coming back or all leaving.
Corbin Hosler: Why I don't think Titans are in M12. @Mark Rosewater has talked about each set having a "hook," and reprinting year-old cards isn't a Hook at all.
torero tutor: Giant Spider or Giant Growth that gets the axe from being in every coreset. If they cut my fav limited card(spider) i'll quit. @Aaron Forsythe
Jonathan Richmond: If Force of Will was reprinted as an uncommon in M12, what would it's price fall to? What if it was a rare or mythic rare?
Arturo Pineda: I hope all Titans are out of M12, Pws as I said before: Garruk 2, Chandra 3, Sorin, Gideon, Jace? #mtg
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor @Aaron Forsythe My money's on Spider being in, but it's also easier to design a replacement for Spider than Growth.
Arturo Pineda: Also, would love Mythic FoW, only way it will ever see reprint asides a FTV/PDS one >.> #mtg
Corbin Hosler: @Jonathan Richmond If it's a Mythic rare, its price probably actually rises. Rare or uncommon price drops.
Chas Andres: @Corbin Hosler M10: Baneslayer! M11: Baneslayer stays, TITANS arrive. M12: Baneslayer gone w/o fanfare, titans stay, NEW THINGS arrive!
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler I dare you to try to design a replacement for Giant Spider! Wow, bold statement. Mana Cost, body size, ability, all perfect.
Chas Andres: @Corbin Hosler Makes the set feel like it's fresh and exciting without making it seem like it's 'lost something'.
Corbin Hosler: @Chas Andres Baneslayer Angel was one of the favorite cards from M10. I think it's a lot different with an entire cycle.
torero tutor: @Chas Andres @Corbin Hosler I see it as, M10: Baneslayer's too good! M11:Oh, i guess its all context. M12:Phew, glad to be back to baneslayer.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor 2GG 2/5 Reach
Chas Andres: @Corbin Hosler Care to make it interesting? A ~$10 card for the winner?
Corbin Hosler: @Jonathan Richmond @jjflipped Force of Will not goon in a format with JTMS? I'll assume this is a joke.
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler I think pump spells are a dime-a-dozen. Quality duders are hard to build so that they are 1st pickable.
Shaheen Soorani: @Patrick Chapin @mixednuts the popularity of Titans goes through the roof! No way they won't reprint :)
Greg: Please keep in mind that M11 rotates out of standard when Zendikar does, on the release of Innistrad, NOT when M12 releases.
Corbin Hosler: @Chas Andres Perhaps, but I don't think you want players to look at your new set and say "Oh, so it's the same as last year?"
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler @two_eyes The fact that Spider is a solid P1p1 at common is what sets the tone for Green in core. "We love creatures!"
Corbin Hosler: @Chas Andres And having all 5 Titans back eats up a lot of Mythic spots and pulls focus from the PWs.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor @two_eyes I agree, and I love the card, but I do think its easier to redesign in a core set.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor @two_eyes I'm playing Devil's Advocate, though. I do think Spider is in over Growth.
thea steele: Maybe the set is going to be sold at rare- like Zen & fetchlands. Is there any WOTC statement about shocklands recently?
Patrick Chapin: The real biggest argument in favor of the Titans being reprinted is so that they are legal for two years, given that they are chase rares.
Patrick Chapin: What I'd love to see if M12 contain enemy shocklands, helping pave the way for the enemy-color block. Unlikely, though, heh.
Corbin Hosler: @Patrick Chapin Doesn't make much sense. Vengevine is only legal for ~2 months longer, and WOTC doesn't take secondary market into consideration
Jonathan Richmond: @thea steele I think they will reprint the shocklands some day, but not sure about now. Wouldn't it be nice to have a Standard without many duals?
thea steele: @Jonathan Richmond YES. But I think it's pretty important for WOTC to have rare lands, right?
Jonathan Richmond: @thea steele Maybe they will bring the painlands back, it has been a while since they were legal, but maybe not long enough yet.
Jonathan Richmond: @thea steele Having all 10 Ravnica Duals in a set would be pretty sweet though.
thea steele: @Jonathan Richmond I'm pretty sure there was an article saying that they were considered for M10, and presumably axed because of fetches.
torero tutor: Nothing is more satisfying than killing a gideon with a Combust copied off a pyromancer ascension. #JustSayin
samstod: @Jonathan Richmond @thea steele ten lands in a set today is about 1/6th of the rares. 6 per box. Just too many
Steve Sadin: Currently listening to some of the construction workers in my building get yelled at for getting high on the job...
Steve Sadin: ...They keep trying to come up with a defense, but then they just start giggling.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor @dtlerch Hearing that is incredibly encouraging. Valakut? UB Infect? Vengevine decks?
thea steele: @samstod Zen had 10 rare lands, although I know it was a large set. But we could get new rare lands without having ten of them.
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler I 2-0'd 2 UB matchups at #scgla, 'kut, and VV are tough G1 but not unwinnable, SB package softens that up quickly.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor What's the Leak/Negate deal? You have Leaks main? Read your blog, being too lazy to look at it now
samstod: @thea steele it was also the land themed set.
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler No, i cut leaks all together (which was correct) upped pierce to 4. should have left Leak inSB, ran negate instead.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor Tell me why Leak < Pierce in MD
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler with so few lands, you can't be bottlenecked from your spells by leaving leak up against aggro. ran more removal for that.
Jonathan Richmond: How awesome would Thran Dynamo be in Standard?
Arturo Pineda: For #m12, I was initially expecting the enemy duals instead of the M11, but now I'm not so sure, thanks twitter! :D
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler In this deck, you want to be "curving out" with cantrips and burn/removal. leak prevents this. pierce much less so.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor Seems fair. I could seriously be convinced to play this deck, you and @dtlerch should convince me it's the deck to play.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor Duress effects seem to be super scary. I can see how you do well against UW. They don't have anything but counters to stop you
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler @dtlerch the one slot MD which could be better is Arc Trail. Needs to hit creatures and PW/players. and cost 2 or less
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler duress is quite bad. I try to use Preordain/halimar to keep shape anews hidden at top until i can cast.
Lauren Lee: Updated the Open Series Reports with a bunch from #SCGLA - http://goo.gl/tciWr LMK if you wrote one so I can put it up :)
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler pierce is great at protecting against early duress effects, but well timed ones can be a problem. No doubt worst hate card.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor @dtlerch Forked Bolt?
torero tutor: @Lauren Lee mines on my blog, torerotutor.blogspot.com part 1 went up last night, part 2 tonight.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor Ship me your list/sb plans to chosler.stu@my.okcu.edu? Might get a chance to run some testing tonight
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler I've actually considered it, but never tested it. Felt arc trail is just better, but maybe its worth trying.
Lauren Lee: @torero tutor oh yeah missed yours - what's your name btw?
Jonathan Richmond: Junk Diver would be a pretty cool reprint for M12.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor Arc Trail seems superior against Vengevine decks. Hits Cobra/BOP + Shaman. Seems about the same against Cawblade.
Cranial Insertion: @Cranial Insertion @obiah (E) And Cranial Insertion continues to be educational in so many matters other than MTG rules!
Corbin Hosler: @Chas Andres @mtgjedi It does swing it that way, but doesin't guarantee it. They're still legal for ~2 months. Also, sell Non-green Titans
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler shipped.
torero tutor: @Lauren Lee Chad Havas (aka nobody) :) torerotutor.blogspot.com don't have the link handy to the specific post.
Paul Rietzl: can't believe i have almost 1k followers. kinda crazy.
Lauren Lee: @torero tutor It's up. I just put your name as ToreroTutor :P
torero tutor: It's awesome that people are interested in my pyormancer list. thanks to @Michael Flores for both his EoTFoFGG article, and original PA list
torero tutor: @Lauren Lee more people know ToreroTutor than chad, anyway. ;-)
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor Gracias. Not sure when I'll be able to test, but I definitely will do so.
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor How has Jace's Ingenuity been?
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler changing foresee-> ingenuity is what made the deck hum. at their EoT, they either counter and you get uninhibited turn, or refill
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler I compare it to Fact or Fiction. (really its that good)
Corbin Hosler: @torero tutor I definitely like it over Foresee.
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler they tap out to attack with collonade, beg combat, you cast, they have to tap colonade to counter, so they cant attack (bonus)
Corbin Hosler: All right, I've got to check out of Twitter for the day. Severely inhibiting my getting work done.
Arturo Pineda: Wouldn't Titans coming back underwhelm the impact of PWs and the Gather your Allies tagline? #m12 #mtg
Adrian Sullivan: Death to the five Titans!
Chas Andres: (1) My #RedSox predictions for the year: 1) Lester in contention for Cy Young. 2) Solid-to-very-good lines for Clay, Lackey, and (!) Dice-K.
Chas Andres: (2) Both Jacoby and Crawford will steal less but hit for more power. Down year for Youk. Ortiz starts stronger, but fades. A-Gon = a beast.
Chas Andres: (3) Due to streaky pitching, team will have long losing streaks and winning streaks. Overall record will still be 95-100 wins.
Chas Andres: (4) Paps will close all year. Beckett will start all year, but will have an ERA over 5 again. Salty will be frustrating but passable.
Chas Andres: (5) Unsung heroes of the team? One of Dice-K or Lackey will be excellent. Jacoby will steal 40 with 15 HR.
Michael A. Robles: "You Don't Need Staples" an GREAT article on @ManaNation.com from @mtgcolorpie. If you're thinking about #commander: http://bit.ly/hyhi0Y #mtg
Chas Andres: It's easy to forget that last year was career-worst for Beckett, Dice, and Lackey. And the BOS rotation was still among the best in MLB.
Mark Rosewater: In the weekly Magic meeting, we went through all the products currently being worked on. (There's a lot.) Tons of cool stuff!
ManaNation.com: .@Mark Rosewater - I missed the meeting, would you mind sending me notes about what was covered?
Kar Yung Tom: At the Apple store, getting my iPad. So disorganized in here.
Corbin Hosler: Exporting the OCU Yearbook DVD Intro now... All that's left is to gather up the last two packages and put it all together!
Chas Andres: Finishing up my article for the week. In your mind, what is the biggest threat Legacy could face? Why might the prices start to tank?
Lee Sharpe: I suppose with @actuallynph on their side, it was hard for the Phyrexians to lose.
torero tutor: Part 2 of my #scgLA standard open report, the matches and the disappointment... torerotutor.blogspot.com/2011/03/starci…
Corbin Hosler: @Chas Andres SCG Open series dying due to the myriad of risks it faces. Second to that is bannings.
Chas Andres: @Corbin Hosler @jtrentini Agreed. Also, with prices that high, people would still be trading staples-for-staples all day long.
Arturo Pineda: Seeing we already know its New Phyrexia, when do previews start? #mtg #nph
Osyp Lebedowicz: pretty much hooked on the miniseries 'Carlos', thank god for streaming Netflix
Ari Lax: The clash between New Phyrexia and Neil Patrick Harris as a tag line is very comical to view.
Michael Flores: My dinner is on fire! #sushi #Seattle http://twitpic.com/4esihu
DrDoom: @g3rryt Buying experimental corpses. Thinking of you.
Jonathan Medina: I am buffing up my Sales list. I just added a bunch of Junk. Check it out! --> http://bit.ly/hOPIB1 #MTG #SickDeals
DrDoom: And @teflon_jeff as advisor, Doom takes your considerations seriously.
Kar Yung Tom: Hmmm... Need to give my iPad a name.
Chris Pikula: Cleaning up this gaming-hole and listening to the @austerityprogra
Arturo Pineda: So it seems I have less than 2 weeks before the 1st NatQ fires, I definitely need to get some testing and a deck to top8 now =S
DrDoom: Doom calls @cmpunk bloody but victorious in @heymanhustle 's little fantasy match up.
DrDoom: Is #thinkingofyou hashed yet?
Conley Woods: Headed home, hoping for a change, expecting the same, only time will tell
Arturo Pineda: Agreed RT @rtassicker: @Conley Woods that sounds like a nickelback song.
Jake Kessler: Breaking News - WOTC announces "Action" will actually be called Homelands Pure
Ferrett Steinmetz: As a rule, I try not to claim I'm "boycotting" anything from someone I've never had any intention of buying from before.
Corbin Hosler: Ready to test @torero tutor's Ascension list. Anyone wanna run the gauntlet on MWS?
Ari Lax: Is a VS System Tutor (3, pitch a card, tutor) a printable card? What if it only found same type (or diff type ie. Enemy of My Enemy?)
Corbin Hosler: Well, just crushed GW Aggro G1. Being on the play helps.
Aaron Forsythe: Aaron's Random Card Comment of the Day #67 - Ivory Guardians (Legends) - http://tinyurl.com/arccd067 - #arccd
tomlapille: What's a good word for "restaurant" that feels medieval or old-timey?
Aaron Forsythe: Did you miss some? #arccd Archive: http://tinyurl.com/arccdarchive
Bryan Gottlieb: My criteria for a banning is that it is strictly a mistake to play anything other than a certain deck. STD is at that point 100%
Osyp Lebedowicz: The best part of Fringe is that in the alternate universe, The West Wing is still on the air
Brian David-Marshall: @Osyp Lebedowicz Is that true? I love all the alternate comics in Fringe but did not notice TV shows.
Jonathan Medina: Are you following @untappedcast , If not you should get on it. I am going to be unleashing a magic circus over there! www.untappedcast.com
Corbin Hosler: Spend 20 minutes trying to figure out where the break was with my monitor not working.. then opened up computer and popped the video card in
MTG Color Pie: Karn Totem? (like the Time Spiral Totems) Great #MTGNPH art: http://bit.ly/fc9Gj7
Jonathan Richmond: Wow, sick art on the Promo Titans http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/678
Justin Treadway: Someone on MTGS just suggested that Wizards should try out having the Core sets stay In Standard for 2 years. #everythingoldisnewagain
Justin Treadway: @Jonathan Richmond Frost Titan is cool, and the artist's name is Mike SASS! So that's pretty sweet.
MTG Color Pie: @Justin Treadway Idea: Extended should be the last 7 blocks. That'll fix the problem! #WellWhyNot
Justin Treadway: @MTG Color Pie I also have some thoughts on cutting down on main phases, seems like the second one invalidates the first.
MTG Color Pie: @Justin Treadway Why don't we have a card type that's faster than an Instant. It seems like it, interrupts the instant....
Brook Gardner-Durbin: why do the promos get the good art? I like the new Titan art so much more than the originals.
MTG Color Pie: @Justin Treadway @stillhadthese BANDING!! I WANT BANDING! #OKNowImJustSpeakingCrazy
MTG Color Pie: Huh. In Sheldon's post today he realized he didn't like the way his "Good Stuff" Thraximundar deck worked. He wants synergy. #Foreshadowing
Arturo Pineda: The new Myr art from Savor the Flavor looks so cool :P Also, Karn totem! :D #mtg
Ryan Bushard: First podcast had some glitches but overall I feel went well, now im kinda addicted anyone who wants a guest lmk.
Ryan Bushard: @Jonathan Medina @Kar Yung Tom covering SCG, new format, future set? Price flux? whats the deal. #insiderinfo #MTG
Corbin Hosler: Revisiting BW Tempo (w/ Swords) and added Top after some theorycrafting. Can't lose with Top on table now.
Brook Gardner-Durbin: I bet we see Titans in M12, no BSA. They kept her two years as the big draw, now they'll replace her with them.
Corbin Hosler: Thus far I have soundly defeated NO Bant, Painter's Servant/ Grindstone, and Zoo. Top has won all 3 matches
Brook Gardner-Durbin: @Corbin Hosler top does that.
Corbin Hosler: I would love a replacement for Tidehollow Sculler that can beat and disrupt, if anyone has one.
Corbin Hosler: Needs to cost 2 to work with Vials
Worth Wollpert: @Luis Scott-Vargas more like wurmdling. :)
MTG Color Pie: @Corbin Hosler Ethersworn Canonist, Leonin Arbiter?
Drew Levin: @Corbin Hosler Mesmeric Fiend?
Corbin Hosler: @Drew Levin That's just an easier-to-cast but worse version, correct?
Worth Wollpert: @Michael Flores where you staying sir? Plans?
Corbin Hosler: Okay, to clarify. I'm looking for 2-cost Black or White creature to disrupt Hand, not Mesmeric Fiend/Sculler. I know little of older cards
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler any luck?
Tom Martell: @Brian David-Marshall @Paulo Vitor made fun of me in a draft walkthrough or an article for getting him with it in Paris.
Drew Levin: @Corbin Hosler Yes. I mean, there's not much better than Hymn.
Corbin Hosler: @Drew Levin Yeah, right now the deck is Hymn-less. It's modeled on the BW list that Top 8'ed KC.
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler there's an unearth rat makes all players discard
Corbin Hosler: Top has been the perfect fit for the deck. You spend turns 1-3 draining both player's hands, and it reloads you. And plays sick with Vials
torero tutor: I think also a couple similar rats. @Corbin Hosler
Brook Gardner-Durbin: @Corbin Hosler ravenous rats? 1/1 for 1B, each player discards one of choice when it enters play.
Corbin Hosler: Gerrard's Verdict is interesting. Gives you life back for your Bobs, too
Drew Levin: @Corbin Hosler Yeah, well, add Hymn, that card is the nut diggity.
Corbin Hosler: @Drew Levin Will do. Also adding more fetches to make sure I hit.
Jonathan Richmond: @Brook Gardner-Durbin The unearth one is Rotting Rats.
Brook Gardner-Durbin: @Corbin Hosler apparently ravenous rats is only target player discards, one of their choice, 1/1,1B. Rotting rats is both players, has unearth.
Magic: The Gathering: Now what did I do those Promo Foil Titans... wizards.com/Magic/Magazine… These look AWESOME. RT! #mtg #dotp2012
Brian Kibler: I never seem to win when I'm recording...
ManaNation.com: 5 AWESOME articles on ManaNation.com today, you get double @mikelinnemann for #Vorthos-day among @klug_alters @seanmorgan & @the_stybs works
Corbin Hosler: I feel so bad because I'm learning how to play with Top for the first time. So many possible interactions in just a normal deck. Ugh. I suck
~Paulo's #1 Fan~: The STEAM promo is FROST titan and the xbox LIVE promo is GRAVE titan. I giggled.
Aaron Forsythe: O, Wall of Tanglecord, you are not unlike a dream...
MTG Wisdom: "Win enough on a small scale, and eventually you'll win big." ("Alex" via @gavinverhey) http://j.mp/fGTa7e
Sonja Boschman: Ran out of gas, missed the train, hungry as hell - but as long as you've Han Solo on your t-shirt, everything's fine.
Osyp Lebedowicz: @Brian David-Marshall yeah it's true, in the latest episode there's a sign for West Wing season 12 on top of Bubbles cab
Pol Gustems: Gravíssim RT @aitorlagunas Lista de palabras prohibidas en Canal 9 por "excesivamente catalanistas" http://bit.ly/hGFSz1
Adam Barnello: The world just turned on its head.
Jessica Blast Danon: Hey #MTG peeps @Jonathan Medina inspired me 2 Start a Pack 2 Mox. Anybody out there wanna help me #GETTHERE? http://bit.ly/dOD0yQ
Brian David-Marshall: @Osyp Lebedowicz But in that world they never make The Wire and actors from the show are forced to take jobs like driving cabs.
Michael Flores: @Worth Wollpert Hotel 1000 - near Pioneer Square?
Jonathan Medina: @Drew Levin Did you mean to tweet blankly?
Drew Levin: @Jonathan Medina nope, was just on the metro and my data connection dropped. Was going to tell you all how excited I am to be casting tonight.
samstod: Check out my interview on Men of Magic http://www.mtgcast.com/?p=8929
Jonathan Medina: @Drew Levin Yeah it's going to be insane! Cant wait brotha!
Drew Levin: @Jonathan Medina If you're not sick of it already, I think the "trade ethics" conv has a cool legacy part to it, would love to get into that.
Jonathan Medina: @Drew Levin I never get sick of talking about trading. :)
Osyp Lebedowicz: @Brian David-Marshall that's is a rough trade off
Justin Treadway: Panel of the Day: Rod! Rod! Rod! http://wp.me/p1gSv3-4W
Kar Yung Tom: There seems to be a sudden growing number of podcasts lately. Going to push me to work harder on mine. =D
Kar Yung Tom: DCI Rating Update: 1916. Going to have to play Nats Q.
Paulo Vitor: @Tom Martell @Brian David-Marshall hey I didn't make fun of you, I merely stated that it happened :p I feel compelled to every time I see the card rly
Osyp Lebedowicz: @Luis Neiman @mrfridays I can't make it tonight, but I'm def interested in coming at some point
ManaNation.com: So @mikelinnemann emailed last night saying, "I'm sending you a whopper, it has to go up tomorrow." He wasn't lying - http://mtg.mn/1Hi #mtg
Kar Yung Tom: You have to be in the top 100 to be invited to Canadian Nats. Silly system because some of the top 100 are inactive.
ManaNation.com: Did you hear episode 3 of Untapped? It's pretty awesome. @Jonathan Medina @franklepore @thejrrr are pretty awesome too http://bit.ly/fIpUvp #mtg
Kar Yung Tom: Best blogging platform for the iPad?
Jonathan Medina: "Call me Evan..." - @misterorange on an AMAZING @themenofmagic Interview. --> http://j.mp/dLeLXp #wow #MTG #reinvention
Drew Levin: @Jonathan Medina I figured :) I liked your article on trading Std into Leg and wanted to revisit notions of value re: speculation & older cards.
ManaNation.com: .@klug_alters is a card altering rockstar, and we have him on ManaNation.com! Check out Altered Reality - Voltron http://mtg.mn/1Hg #mtg
Kar Yung Tom: @Drew Levin @Jonathan Medina Going to let you 2 take over. I am so unprepared.
Jonathan Medina: @Kar Yung Tom @Drew Levin We got this.
Drew Levin: @Kar Yung Tom @Jonathan Medina Definitely can talk for actual hours.
Lauren Lee: @Drew Levin @Kar Yung Tom @Jonathan Medina likelikelikelike
Lan D. Ho: Movie Klub New York was just so damn good. Like a Friday in the middle of every week. @dannyoms @jonnymagic00 @Michael Flores @eskibwoy &al.
ManaNation.com: It's #Vorthos Wednesday. so when I have 2 @mikelinnemann articles to go up, there's only one option: run them both -- http://mtg.mn/1Hh #mtg
Drew Levin: Going to be casting with #CrazyTalk tonight -- already looking forward to Legacy chats with @Jonathan Medina and @manadeprived!
ManaNation.com: You need to do two things: Follow @the_stybs and then read his article today "Stapled Again" http://mtg.mn/1He #mtg #commander
GatheringMagic.com: I'm really enjoying the #Vorthos Wednesday posts on @ManaNation.com - check both of today's out: http://mtg.mn/1Hi http://mtg.mn/1Hh #mtg
Russ henderson: Somebody give me startup capital to open a game store in edmond! :-)
Arturo Pineda: #Vorthos Wednesday! Have you read the dose of flavor we got today twitter? :) http://bit.ly/dUHS3R http://bit.ly/hFbwJr http://bit.ly/ePvHlG
Corbin Hosler: Footage of the Japan tsunami as it builds up strength off-shore. http://dailycosmicnews.blogspot.com/p/images-and-sounds.html
Justin Treadway: I just found out I'm doing more caricatures on Men of Magic? @misterorange I better start listening to more shows......
Jonathan Richmond: Weird, the PTQ hasn't been reported yet. I was briefly over 1900 but lost a ton at FNM last week.
ManaNation.com: Bringing together the financial data, @seanmorgan examines the pricing changes for Standard - http://mtg.mn/1Hf #mtg
Lauren Lee: Did you guys listen to Evan Erwin's @themenofmagic interview? It's awesome http://bit.ly/dLeLXp #mtg @misterorange
Corbin Hosler: Well, UWB Caw had a bit of a slow hand, but just rocked him G1 with Ascension. @torero tutor
Justin Treadway: Hey guys, if you are interested in my new shirt, PLEASE PRE-ORDER! http://bit.ly/i49ZhN I'm getting close to my goal! Thanks so much!
samstod: There are days I wish that I could go back in time and prevent the onslaught fetches from ever being printed. Or at least fix them somehow
samstod: Either a basic qualifier, or have the land enter tapped if non-basic
Lee Sharpe: Magic Online Urza's Destiny Prereleases: http://bit.ly/en9wU3 #mtgo
Aaron Forsythe: Don't expect Commander to attempt to solve Legacy card availability issues. That isn't its job. It is for Commander players.
samstod: There are a million interesting duals that will never see play in legacy because you will never do better than fetch/revised duals for mana
Corbin Hosler: @Aaron Forsythe Not even somewhat by accident?
Drew Levin: @Aaron Forsythe We know, just daydreaming about hypotheticals. To clarify your position on Snow USea: you feel like it's cheating. Ruled it out?
Aaron Forsythe: By "Commander" I meant "the Commander product."
Aaron Forsythe: @Drew Levin You know, but lots of other people don't know. They think "Legacy-legal" means packed full of staples/new duals.
Drew Levin: @Aaron Forsythe Didn't Hellkite Overlord win a Vintage tournament before it was technically "in-print"? People really ought to dig deeper.
Aaron Forsythe: @Drew Levin Dude, I'm with you.
samstod: @Drew Levin @Aaron Forsythe I think arguing that snow duals aren't functional reprints is shaky at best.
Corbin Hosler: Beat RDW/Goblins Game 1 on Ascension plan, he boarded in Ratchet bombs and cried when I cast Trinket Mage. Then I won.
Paul Rietzl: Very happy to not be in japan, Syria, or Libya right now
samstod: At what point do people remember that Back to Basics exists?
Drew Levin: @samstod @Aaron Forsythe "A card is...functionally identical...if it has the same card type, subtypes, abilities, cost, power, and toughness."
samstod: @Drew Levin @Aaron Forsythe there is a technical def and a practical one. Could print mixes that etb taped if you have more than 40 life.
Aaron Forsythe: COMPLETE FANTASY: If we made snow-duals, and original duals lost 85% of their value, would those of you that own originals be happy?
ManaNation.com: Something that might shock people in the works... can't tip my hand yet...
Drew Levin: @samstod @Aaron Forsythe Sure, but Snow USea can be found with Into the North and Scrying Sheets. More realistic would be to make them Legendary.
Drew Levin: @Aaron Forsythe Yes, I'd be overjoyed. Without more duals, Legacy goes the way of Vintage, and I don't care for boutique formats or their staples.
amclay: @Aaron Forsythe Not happy at all. I made the investment based on the word of WotC that they would not be reprinted.
Chris Pikula: @Aaron Forsythe I own a lot of cards that I don't really plan on selling, but I'm still missing stuff. Lower prices are preferable.
Chas Andres: @Aaron Forsythe Other good lands? Fine. Snow duals? Heck no. It would feel cheap, tacked on, lacking good flavor.
Conley Woods: @Aaron Forsythe did you ask this question to Juzaam Djinn owners before printing Plague Sliver?
Chas Andres: @Aaron Forsythe Why not just ban duals in Legacy? Would solve pricing problems w/o impacting format too much.
Conley Woods: @Aaron Forsythe The existence of a format is much more important than the short term value of some cards...
Patrick Chapin: A truly exceptional video covering a recent Grand Prix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBC8fTYVDm8&feature=channel_video_title
Conley Woods: @Aaron Forsythe how do you think those same collectors feel when their duals arent worth anything because eternal formats no longer are played?
Ryan Bushard: @Conley Woods @Aaron Forsythe thank you Conley for understanding the true root of the problem behind this...so few people realize this.
Aaron Forsythe: @Conley Woods Funny. Juzam has value just because of collectibility. No format hinges on that guy. And he retained all his value.
Jonathan Medina: @Aaron Forsythe I wouldn't care. TBH
Aaron Forsythe: @Conley Woods Do you think that if 10K people can play Legacy but 15K can't that the 10K all just quit? Why would the format die and not plateau
Conley Woods: @Aaron Forsythe Sure, but duals could very well do the same thing for all we know.
ManaNation.com: Man there are some awesome discussions happening: Overextended, New Phyrexia, now Duals - This is an awesome week for #mtg twitter.
Conley Woods: @Aaron Forsythe Why would you ever want a format to plateau? From a business perspective, reprints make Wizards money, Legacy currently doesnt...
Drew Levin: @Aaron Forsythe @Conley Woods It would die because TOs wouldn't be able to make it a local format. 1.5's success is predicated on broad LGS adoption.
Jonathan Medina: @Aaron Forsythe You also realize that no matter what you do or don't do, people will be pissed and will complain.
Conley Woods: @Aaron Forsythe Also, duals see play, meaning they get damaged, or lost etc, so the numbers begin to drop over time, not just plateau
Chas Andres: @Conley Woods @Aaron Forsythe Legacy absolutely makes Wizards money. Eternal prices going up = confidence to buy more cards in current sets.
torero tutor: @Corbin Hosler w00t gotta Dodge/ counter the disruption
Chas Andres: People are freaking out about Legacy b/c once a year SCG has enough capital to forcefully shift the entire market 30%.
Chas Andres: This happened last year and the year before too...remember all the shouting about the reserve list?
Jonathan Medina: @misterorange @Aaron Forsythe I say EFF IT. Print the snow duals and let the cities burn. We will rebuild from the rubble. :)
Adam Barnello: @Aaron Forsythe as someone who owns beta duals, and eventually plans to sell them, I don't fully know how it would impact me. (cont)
Adam Barnello: @Aaron Forsythe as someone who genuinely cares about the health and future of Legacy, I'm willing to take the risk.
Ryan Bushard: @Jonathan Medina @misterorange @Aaron Forsythe stem the bleeding you lose a few up front but save far more in the end this way.
Jonathan Medina: @Conley Woods @misterorange @Aaron Forsythe I think Conley's contributions to this discussion are very sensible.
Lee Sharpe: I was recently told that one of my most attractive qualities is that I'm unapologetically myself. One of the best compliments I've received.
Chris McNutt: @ertaislament Magic cards are not an investment. at best is a speculative hobby.
samstod: Legendary duals are not a good idea. They just end up being fetchable wastelands
Jonathan Medina: @Conley Woods @misterorange @Aaron Forsythe I think Extended theoretically should have been where Legacy is now in popularity and Day 2 of SCG Open.
Jonathan Medina: @Conley Woods @misterorange @Aaron Forsythe ... the problem is that extended sucks so now we are stuck trying to make a "LEGACY" format that has been
ManaNation.com: Who's interested in writing a 'This Week in Twitter' for me? Email me trick@mananation.com #mtg
Patrick Chapin: @Aaron Forsythe If snow's too close, how about duals that enter tapped unless u make opp gain 1 life? RL isnt a promise to make no lands that good
Jonathan Medina: @Conley Woods @misterorange @Aaron Forsythe ... popularized by the black market, affordable for people who probably would have never bothered if ...
Lauren Lee: A format never "just plateaus." Formats always shed players. If new players don't come into fill the gap, it results in decay. #savelegacy
MTG Color Pie: @Aaron Forsythe My decks are no good if I don't have people to play against. Personally, trading commidity vs playing games choice is easy for me.
Jonathan Medina: @Conley Woods @misterorange @Aaron Forsythe ..Extended was positioned correctly.
Jonathan Medina: @Brian David-Marshall @misterorange I'm just putting the thought out there, that maybe Extended should have been marketed better.
samstod: For extended to catch on, it needs to be over prize supported for a while. Make mtgo ext events 2xes
Brian David-Marshall: @samstod Agree. Also being able to run FNMs will be help.
TomReeve: @Brian David-Marshall @misterorange Yes, the DCI probably does need to nurture/support neo-Extended more. As a player why should I care about it?
James Clarke: @Jonathan Medina @Brian David-Marshall @misterorange I really think current EXT would be a killer FNM format, that's the type of exposure it needs.
Dave Robinder: @Jonathan Medina @Brian David-Marshall @misterorange Ext would be better if it were a FNM format. Playing it @ 2 PTQs a year sucks. I like the fmt, psnly
Lee Sharpe: @samstod If given payouts are equal (as they are on MTGO now) a player prefers format A to B, why subsidize B?
Drew Levin: People don't seem to understand that local support makes a format thrive. Without broad local card availability, a format can't succeed.
Shawn Petsche: @Brian David-Marshall We (Broken City) ran current ext. as a Wednesday Night Magic format in the bar. Fired 8-16 man tourneys each week of the season.
Lauren Lee: I would not cry if Extended were to cease to exist tomorrow. I feel there are inherent reasons keeping it from becoming popular.
Lauren Lee: "Being upset when the possible happens isn’t where you want to be in life, I assure you." - @g3rryt Wise words.
Lauren Lee: @Brian David-Marshall @sunmesaglenn Jace is exception, but I think most ppl will just dump most Std staples expecting huge price drop.
Brian David-Marshall: @Lauren Lee @sunmesaglenn Sure. But if there is a reason not to dump them...
Byron Calver: @Brian David-Marshall Here in Saskatoon, we (Collectors Lane) ran Extended every Wed. for last four months; fired 8-15 man tournaments all but once.
Chas Andres: People that like rotation/change play standard. People that like nostalgia/raw power/stability play Legacy. No one plays extended.
Jonathan Medina: @Brian David-Marshall @aleksfelipe @misterorange @Conley Woods @samstod I have Skype! :)
Brian David-Marshall: Fun debating fate of Extended but I must do some work. Stepping away from the Twitter...must...resist...Twitter.
Jonathan Medina: What if you drove the prices down of all the non-reserve list cards in Legacy with a special set (kind of like Master’s Editions). @Aaron Forsythe
Ryan Bushard: gonna be a buzz week for articles cant wait to see what people have up, no one will be talking about anything but I feel, I know I wont
Ari Lax: @Lauren Lee Agree. In general, 1.X is too linear and focused for people to break in with tier 2 decks. No checks like Force for combo.
Brian David-Marshall: @Jonathan Medina I really prefer to podcast in the immediate vicinity of trucks backing up and jackhammers!
Lauren Lee: RT @Ari Lax Agree. In general, 1.X is too linear and focused for people to break in with tier 2 decks. No checks like Force for combo.
Jonathan Medina: Good examples of these cards are: Natural Order, Lion's Eye Diamond, Tarmogoyf, Dark Confidant (soon to be more expensive). @Aaron Forsythe
Marshall Sutcliffe: I know it wouldn't have been great for Standard,but making the SOM duals basic land types would have been a great Legacy compromise to duals
Ryan Bushard: @Jonathan Medina @Aaron Forsythe wont this just force more players into the format (although good) that will already be stretched for duals?
Adrian Sullivan: Oh, god, tell me that Lightning Bolt isn't getting cut from M12!!
Peter Johnson: Shit, I think I am turning 21 in like 10 hours.
Steve Brynildsen: @Jonathan Medina If goyf, wasteland, and force were cheaper I wouldn't mind buying duals at all. It's the totality of the staples that hurts
Ari Lax: @Jonathan Medina @Aaron Forsythe How LED has stayed so unchanged in price is beyond me. Maybe just all the combo players already had them?
Ari Lax: @Aaron Forsythe I would not care if duals plummeted. Or any of my cards. I own them to play them.
samstod: Hidden glenn. Island swamp. ETBT unless played from hand. Shroud.
Ari Lax: @Lauren Lee Also, every good deck in Extended is the fun police. Fae, Thepths, Valakut, Elves, etc. No rando tempo decks to exploit.
joelniddrie: @rtassicker @untappedcast I hope @Jonathan Medina does make it into R & D seems like a fun standard season with Medina cards #MoreMedina
Aaron Forsythe: @Ari Lax @Jonathan Medina LED is an unappealing card to the next level down unlike, say, Natural Order.
Jonathan Medina: @Drew Levin @misterorange Not every deck plays duals and with everything else cheaper, it will allow people to play dual-less decks.
Arturo Pineda: @ManaNation.com Please tell me this Week in Twitter is happening, college stops me from following all these awesome discussions =/
Drew Levin: @Jonathan Medina Sure, but good luck playing Brainstorm.
Ari Lax: @Aaron Forsythe @Jonathan Medina That's very fair. No one just plays an LED for funsies.
Jonathan Medina: @Drew Levin @misterorange Lowering the price of everything else wont surely raise the price of duals. If it did we'd have more wallet room.
samstod: It just started snowing like a mofo. Screw this noise.
Jonathan Medina: @Drew Levin High Tide plays Brainstorm and no duals.
Kar Yung Tom: @Drew Levin @Jonathan Medina Too much to follow, I expect to be debriefed tonight.
Chris McNutt: @Joshua J. i don't see what's wrong with having an elitist format. if you want to play, you have to pay. it's a hobby not an entitlement.
Ari Lax: @Jonathan Medina @Drew Levin @misterorange Look at Mythics, mid-range (~$40) rares make it easier to trade into the format.
samstod: The land probably needs to either etb tapped always, or have the rav dual clause.
ManaNation.com: @Arturo Pineda - I'll make it happen, it's just a question of when I can find the right person. Took ~9 months to find @lukesonnier :)
Jonathan Medina: @Kar Yung Tom @Drew Levin Put in the Work KYT! Read this stuff, I'm not your errand boy.
Drew Levin: @Jonathan Medina Every blue combo deck does -- even Ari's Seas aren't THAT necessary. Midrange blue is a huge draw to the format, though.
Arturo Pineda: @ManaNation.com I tend to read most of what's happening if I have a computer @ class, the trek home makes me miss stuff so I would be thankful.
Ari Lax: @Drew Levin @Jonathan Medina I've played with 1 Sea before. It was fine but subpar. Same with Watery Graves.
torero tutor: Wow, really surprised my 5-3-1 at #scgla actually gained me some rating... even my 2-1 and 0-1 drop didn't hurt me to bad in the draft open.
Ari Lax: @Drew Levin @Jonathan Medina Dual shortage might also teach people to build good manabases. No need for 4x Tundra in WU Still etc.
Aaron Forsythe: Thanks, all, for sharing your thoughts on this sensitive issue. I must now adjourn to other works.
Kar Yung Tom: @Jonathan Medina Where's my tacos?
Adrian Sullivan: Man, this interview is SO good! http://www.mtgcast.com/?powerpress_pinw=8930-podcast @misterorange http://fb.me/TvWPugqy
Paul Rietzl: pretty excited for the first episode of TUF tonight. anyone else?
Luis Scott-Vargas: @Worth Wollpert we are done with that for now (until I get myself into another bet with gabe, at the very least)
ManaNation.com: @Arturo Pineda @lukesonnier - I've already got a few nibbles on the line, we'll see what comes of them :)
Ari Lax: @Jonathan Medina @jakeantonetz @Drew Levin Yeah. So many mana bases that are 4 Tundra, 4 Trop without even thinking if you want those.
Aaron Forsythe: I summarize and distribute to coworkers. RT @aleksfelipe: unfortunate that important discussions like these will be lost in the twitterverse
Ryan Bushard: Well looks like I have some more writing to do. Better get crackalackin. Hope people enjoy all the reads.
Jonathan Medina: What if you coupled the Snow Dual printing with a redemption program to soften the blow? Or paper to #MTGO Conversion Program. @Aaron Forsythe
Luis Neiman: Surprisingly funny spoof trailer for The Big Lebowski 2 w/Tara Reid playing all the characters: http://tinyurl.com/4zz92ub
Arthur Halavais: I've heard multiple people say the loss of MPR was enough to stop their weekly FNM. Something to think about for flagging attendance. #MTG
MTG Color Pie: I only play with cards in dead languages. #MagicHipster
Drew Levin: @Ari Lax @jakeantonetz @Jonathan Medina I wasn't at Honolulu, but I DID hear about $4 Fleshbags and $30 Urils.
torero tutor: @Luis González They should grind up playing formats they can afford.
Geordie Tait: Hope the reserve list gets axed, duals end up being worth $1.95 and nerds who had money in 1993 end up hanging themselves in their fursuits.
Lauren Lee: You don't have to get rid of the Reserve List. But one way or another, you can't keep everyone happy. Do what's good for Legacy. #savelegacy
Luis González: @torero tutor that means they can evolve as a players, playing everytime the same format.
Ari Lax: @Drew Levin @jakeantonetz @Jonathan Medina Uril = $50, Exotic Orchard = $20. Just a Hawaii thing as meta was ~75% RGx, SJuan was fine.
MTG Color Pie: I prefer my #MTG boosters like my hot dogs: in packs of 8. #MagicHipster
Lauren Lee: For a pretty comprehensive price guide to Legacy's most popular decks, check out @samstod's article http://goo.gl/h8Mqe good reference!
torero tutor: @Luis González formats is plural, There is draft, sealed, extended and standard... Get good enough at those to win some product/prize support
Arturo Pineda: @lowbeyonder @Arthur Halavais Only reason I go to FNM now is to test @Michael Flores' or @smi77y's decks. MPR was a huge incentive.
torero tutor: @Luis González they are just missing out on the two most expensive formats to enter until they build up the collection. Life aint easy.
torero tutor: Am I annoyed I can't afford legacy staples? Yes. Are solutions in my control? Yes. should wotc care? No.
Conley Woods: What duals comes down to is that the few (collectors) sacrifice for the many (growing legacy community) to be happy in my opinion
Drew Levin: @Conley Woods I think it's actually even simpler: the many have made the few rich. The rich's time to cash out is now, as prices aren't (cont)
Luis González: @torero tutor just think, in USA you got SCG per week, bit prices, high atendance. Spain, store tourneys, no more than 20€ for prizes...
Conley Woods: Mtg is a trading card game after all, game is the keyword, it is not a collectible card game, that grew as a secondary product of trading
torero tutor: @Conley Woods But why should WotC change their policy to satisfy the growing legacy community that buys the least amount of new product.
Drew Levin: @Conley Woods ...sustainable. If new duals don't get made, the few will lose their investment value AND the many will lose their format.
Luis González: @torero tutor low attendance... Find the 7 diferences
MTG Color Pie: I think this whole #SaveLegacy debacle comes down to having duals, and maybe FoW reprinted. Right? (@Mark Rosewater @Aaron Forsythe @tomlapille)
Conley Woods: Outside of poor reserve list promises, wotc has no responsibility to make magic collectible, they are responsible for keeping it a game tho
torero tutor: The people arguing for reprints are naive and narrowminded, and seem to not understand what makes a biz decision correct.
torero tutor: @Luis González low attendance? what are you talking about?
MTG Color Pie: Hence the word: debacle. #ThinkImUsingTheWordCorrectly RT: @fatecreatr: @MTG Color Pie legacy doesn't need saving, it's fine.
Shaheen Soorani: Officially going to Atlanta. UW Caw-Lame and BW Deadguy ale for legacy are my weapons currently. Hopefully see many of you twitter peoples!
torero tutor: Prices are going up on Legacy staples. But attendance is still at a high point. What exactly is the problem here?
Luis González: @Conley Woods also with a constantly new incoming players that starts playing on "Legacy" and standard, a solution is needee
Kar Yung Tom: SCG was able to lure me into a format (Legacy) that I would have never otherwise cared about. Is there actually a problem?
MTG Color Pie: Think of the planes! RT: @manadeprived: @gabelanciano Save Legacy? @jayboosh and I are trying to save Planechase.
Luis González: @torero tutor here a Big Tournament involves no more than 70+ players. Only one big tournament per year (frikigordo)...
Luis González: @torero tutor but Legacy Leagues involve more than 100... #justtalking
MTG Color Pie: Same ideas: reprint Duals/Lose RL RT: @stillhadthese: Can I get caught up on the various arguments/'solutions'/etc to the Legacy debate?
Joshua J.: #mtg On top of that, WotC designing cards that work in legacy boosts their sales. Obvious benefit. Noble Hierarch? Knight of the Reliquary?
Kelly Reid: @Brian David-Marshall @misterorange @Jonathan Medina i believe it is on the playerbase to tell the TOs what they want, and the TO's to execute/find out
Kelly Reid: Why has no MTG designer explored the space of limiting copies in play beyond the "Legendary" rule. you could even enact it like a ban/restr
Jonathan Richmond: Magic was fine without Legacy for so many years. Would it be so bad if we only had Standard, Extended, Vintage, EDH, Cube, and Draft/Sealed?
